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	<title>Comments on: Going mental</title>
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		<title>By: Not Ready for Prime Time: A 15K Race Report &#171; RunWestchester</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Ready for Prime Time: A 15K Race Report &#171; RunWestchester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] get to Fenimore Road.&#8221; Right onto that with an up and then a down and then, nothing. I stop. I simply can&#8217;t hold this pace. 12 seconds and run again, but only briefly. I&#8217;m [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] get to Fenimore Road.&#8221; Right onto that with an up and then a down and then, nothing. I stop. I simply can&#8217;t hold this pace. 12 seconds and run again, but only briefly. I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spring Race Training: Week 7 &#171; Races Like a Girl</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spring Race Training: Week 7 &#171; Races Like a Girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Going&#160;mental  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ewen</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ewen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to mention about a running friend of mine who flew to the states a number of times to run the St George marathon (due to it&#039;s downhill second half). Not all his runs were fast. Running downhill to finish a marathon isn&#039;t easy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention about a running friend of mine who flew to the states a number of times to run the St George marathon (due to it&#8217;s downhill second half). Not all his runs were fast. Running downhill to finish a marathon isn&#8217;t easy!</p>
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		<title>By: Ewen</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ewen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[* Yes. Jones&#039;s was in London - I think a #1 in a tunnel. I thought Paula&#039;s was also a #1. Maybe if it meant the difference between running 2:08, or staying with the lead pack in the Olympics you wouldn&#039;t give up marathons. I always thought they should have porta-loos with no doors every kilometre in Olympic marathons. Just as quick as the street, and not such a bad look for television.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Yes. Jones&#8217;s was in London &#8211; I think a #1 in a tunnel. I thought Paula&#8217;s was also a #1. Maybe if it meant the difference between running 2:08, or staying with the lead pack in the Olympics you wouldn&#8217;t give up marathons. I always thought they should have porta-loos with no doors every kilometre in Olympic marathons. Just as quick as the street, and not such a bad look for television.</p>
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		<title>By: joegarland</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-907</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim,

I don&#039;t know about the uphills, but Steamtown is notorious as a promoter of its downhill orientation and, as the author of this blog can attest, that&#039;s not necessarily a good thing for a marathon.  The course demands the ability to handle the abuse that downhill running can cause and so requires a good deal of specialty training.  I understand that Boston&#039;s downhills are what get you, and that&#039;s a reason I would never do that race.  I&#039;m awful on the downs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the uphills, but Steamtown is notorious as a promoter of its downhill orientation and, as the author of this blog can attest, that&#8217;s not necessarily a good thing for a marathon.  The course demands the ability to handle the abuse that downhill running can cause and so requires a good deal of specialty training.  I understand that Boston&#8217;s downhills are what get you, and that&#8217;s a reason I would never do that race.  I&#8217;m awful on the downs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim E</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, joegarland, I&#039;ve not been o Steamtown, but I&#039;ve seen reports and pictures. There&#039;s a nasty uphill late in the race that&#039;ll nail those who are a little short of gas. Myself, I&#039;m a slower rather than a stopper. I  have had some success with this suggestion from Jack Daniels: &quot;When Struggling, Speed Up&quot;. It sounds insane, but often works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, joegarland, I&#8217;ve not been o Steamtown, but I&#8217;ve seen reports and pictures. There&#8217;s a nasty uphill late in the race that&#8217;ll nail those who are a little short of gas. Myself, I&#8217;m a slower rather than a stopper. I  have had some success with this suggestion from Jack Daniels: &#8220;When Struggling, Speed Up&#8221;. It sounds insane, but often works.</p>
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		<title>By: RunWestchester</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RunWestchester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] posted a few responses in JT&#8217;s Races Like A Girl entry &#8220;Going Mental.&#8221; She speaks of the evils of stopping and of the good that knowledge of the evils of stopping [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] posted a few responses in JT&#8217;s Races Like A Girl entry &#8220;Going Mental.&#8221; She speaks of the evils of stopping and of the good that knowledge of the evils of stopping [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joegarland</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-903</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steamtown?  Isn&#039;t that, like, all downhill?  I kid; Julie&#039;s already testified to the myth of downhills being easy.

This thread did come into my mind today in the last mile of a 10-miler on Pondfield Road, falling apart, thinking, if I stop I&#039;m going to have to come on here and admit it and become the subject of a mix of sympathy and ridicule.  So I kept going.  Cause as they say, there&#039;s no crying in baseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steamtown?  Isn&#8217;t that, like, all downhill?  I kid; Julie&#8217;s already testified to the myth of downhills being easy.</p>
<p>This thread did come into my mind today in the last mile of a 10-miler on Pondfield Road, falling apart, thinking, if I stop I&#8217;m going to have to come on here and admit it and become the subject of a mix of sympathy and ridicule.  So I kept going.  Cause as they say, there&#8217;s no crying in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: flo</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In huge agreement about the mental fallout from thoughts of stopping, and I get them, though less in intervals (nowadays I say &quot;I can go slower&quot; instead of &quot;I can stop&quot;).  In the midst of the 10K last weekend I was saying lots of crap to myself and at one point &quot;I could just stop.  Right here, right now&quot; came into my mind, though it wasn&#039;t anything I was going to do but I hated that it even entered my brain.

That said, I did have to stop and walk a bit during Steamtown (first and only marathon) towards the end.  I had never walked once in training, but my feet were a mess and I didn&#039;t drink enough at the end.  Even so, I was surprised at how the walking didn&#039;t harm my time that much, I still got a BQ with padding.  Of course, I&#039;d love to never have to walk again, but I no longer find it to be a shameful thing, as previously imagined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In huge agreement about the mental fallout from thoughts of stopping, and I get them, though less in intervals (nowadays I say &#8220;I can go slower&#8221; instead of &#8220;I can stop&#8221;).  In the midst of the 10K last weekend I was saying lots of crap to myself and at one point &#8220;I could just stop.  Right here, right now&#8221; came into my mind, though it wasn&#8217;t anything I was going to do but I hated that it even entered my brain.</p>
<p>That said, I did have to stop and walk a bit during Steamtown (first and only marathon) towards the end.  I had never walked once in training, but my feet were a mess and I didn&#8217;t drink enough at the end.  Even so, I was surprised at how the walking didn&#8217;t harm my time that much, I still got a BQ with padding.  Of course, I&#8217;d love to never have to walk again, but I no longer find it to be a shameful thing, as previously imagined.</p>
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		<title>By: threlkeld</title>
		<link>http://raceslikeagirl.com/2009/03/06/going-mental/#comment-901</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ewen, the day I have to take a dump in the street* is the day I give up marathon racing. Even I&#039;m not that committed. And I don&#039;t race on stinking hot days anymore, as I&#039;m a lousy hot weather racer (yet, conversely, a kick ass cold weather racer).

But I appreciate the points you make nonetheless.

*If that&#039;s what you&#039;re talking about; I&#039;ve seen the video of Paula relieving herself, but not Jones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewen, the day I have to take a dump in the street* is the day I give up marathon racing. Even I&#8217;m not that committed. And I don&#8217;t race on stinking hot days anymore, as I&#8217;m a lousy hot weather racer (yet, conversely, a kick ass cold weather racer).</p>
<p>But I appreciate the points you make nonetheless.</p>
<p>*If that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re talking about; I&#8217;ve seen the video of Paula relieving herself, but not Jones.</p>
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